In Montenegro, the parents leave you.
I am not from Montenegro, but in case of some of my friends that was actually true - their parents were fed up with waiting and bought new homes/apartments and moved out.
This made me chuckle
Somehow I didn't get the joke. Could you explain, please?
I think that's why Bosnia doesn't have any data as well.
This entire thread took a dark turn damn
In Bosnia as well my uncle was like 38 until he left home
As a Montenegrin in the USA I’m surprised this is the top comment
Well we in Montenegro really never leave our parents because
To get a new house/flat is not really cheap for young people with our sallary rates. If you really need to leave then you will just rent it for temporary solution. 2.We mostly live in houses so young married couple can get one floor for them.
Most of the young people that do leave their home don't change their permanent adress
We actually never leave our parents as we don't usually put them in nursing homes, we live with them so we can care about them
This reminds us that "My parents want to kick me out at 18" and "I have to pay rent to my parents for living at home" are some of the "I'm too european to understand this problem" that we can read about here on reddit, on the subreddits where americans post.
In Sweden it is until you are 18 or until you finish primary studies(12th grade/high school). The young age for Sweden in the chart might be because of those that move to another city to study from 10th grade.
After reading how the government in EU countries looks out for It’s citizens, it’s like, how can USA call itself the world’s greatest country? Our government hates us. We are in last place in almost everything.
At what what age does a Finnish finish the primary studies?
Same in Canada. Left at 17 to live 6 hours away from my family to continue school.
As someone else said, it used to be like that 10 years ago. That's if you passed the tests. But it would still be after you finished school at 18-20
Yes but then Italy’s number don’t make sense: most of the people leave for university at 19 as well
Either they live at home while studying at the university, or they just live at the campus during weekdays and home to their parents during weekend and back to their parents when they are done with the university studies.
It's absolutely because of this it's under 18. We have a complete choice in our last three years of primary school. The government subsidise accommodation in this case. For example special athlete schools or corporate sponsored schools. The concept of traditional private schools doesn't really exist. On top of that, if you are more than 22 and still live with your parents, something is wrong with you. Basically "why can't you take care of yourself, you're an adult".
Those two in combination creates an average under 18
瑞典的年龄低于18岁绝对是因为以下原因。我们在初级学业的最后三年有一个完整的选择。在这种情况下，政府补贴住宿。例如特殊运动员学校或公司赞助的学校。传统私立学校的概念并不存在。 除此之外，如果你超过22岁仍然和你的父母住在一起，你就有问题了。 基本上都会以“为什么你不能照顾自己，你是个成年人”的眼光看你。
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In the US you will not get welfare if you move out. Only if you have a disability or have children.
At least for students it's also fairly easy to get the money.
I'd be careful with this one -- the US has more people with degrees per capita than some larger EU countries like Germany, implying access to education is actually worse. So generalizing things from student availability is probably not a great idea.
Getting into college is what's hard in Germany. An American high-school diploma alone for example wouldn't allow you to enter any university in Germany. You need a so called Abitur which less than half the studends attain (there are some exceptions).
Vocational learning is also a rather appealing idea in Germany since the earning potential isn't necessarily lower and you start getting paid (a little) the moment you start your education.
In EU we make fun of US university to be way too easy.
Plus IIRC germany has this weird system if you did not get good grades you can't even try.
That would be weird in Germany, at least for someone who goes to college (edit: most marry when above 30).
But no, I don't think that has anything to do with it. At least if your spouse doesn't make much money. It would of course make a difference if you married rich (or if you became rich on your own in some way). You're only entitled to these payments if you don't have any significant amount of money. I think anything above 7.5k in cash you have to use first.
that we can read about here on reddit, on the subreddits where americans post.
Yeah, I read that the average age Americans move out is 19, which is accurate for me. Hell, I bought my home at 25.
But my parents never kicked me out, or made me pay rent. It was definitely a choice to be on my own.
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It really depends on your expectations, which I think have changed between generations.
Do you want to live in an urban area or suburban? Are you OK with an older home or do you want newer?
I made the choice to buy a smaller, older, starter home, in a lower-income area in the city. But a lot of my peers only wanted a $200k+ newer house in the suburbs.
200k gets you a garage in the suburbs where I live. I think housing prices are kinda low where you live.
Btw, the idea of a "starter home" is also only something I've heard from Americans. Love the enthusiam.
Mmhm I basically moved out in the US at 16, junior year of high school. Granted, I was an exchange student in Germany that year, but when I came home all my belongings were boxed up and it was clear my parents expected me to either move out or pay rent. My mom emigrated to the US from the NL and has since moved back, so I don't know why the fuck she thought it was acceptable to tell her kids "at 18 you are out of this house", but there you go.
There also might be differing experiences based on generation and the economy at the time.
When I moved out in the early 2000s, it was a lot easier, and things were cheap. The crash in 2008 was rough on a lot of people, but the bottoming-out of the housing market meant me and most of my siblings could afford to buy homes.
It is extremely unlikely someone in their mid-20s could do that now.
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There was a post that said 52% of Americans under the age of 29 live with their parents tho.
yeahh im from america, and my mother says once i turn 18 shes gonna kick me out. I asked what if i dont have money, she just said then ill live on the streets
Big country, small population. Many people have to move away from their parents when they're 16 to continue their studies.
Thats the thing, that would not even be legal to do in Sweden. But we just chose to move out early
We don't have the kick out culture here like in the US, it's just that we're a very free people and really like our own space, so most move out ASAP. It's possible here since a "minimum wage" job is definitely enough to support yourself with 100% solo. Apartment, food, everything. The hard part is actually finding an apartment, the rest is relatively easy.
Paying rent to parents is very common though, I had to do it myself even though my dad makes a very comfortable living. Nothing major, more symbolic ($400/month), but still.
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Seriously yes. I think the "when my kid is 18 he is on his own" mentality makes you a real piece of shit of a parent.
Hell, I don't have a great relationship with my parents, I left home at 17 for college but they never kicked me out, they always told me that I'm welcome home whenever I want. My sister still live there for now at 22 making money on the side to rent an appartment.
I can get behind making them pay a small part of the rent if you're struggling financially or to teach them responsability IF they don't go to University but have a full time job.
But when I see on reddit post like "I'm a 19 years old US college student full time, working full time, I pay 600 dollars a month to my parents for rent but I'm running out of money, what financial help would be available for me ?" it makes me mad, this is not teaching your kids responsability, it's fucking them up and setting them for failure.
Seriously yes. I think the “when my kid is 18 he is on his own” mentality makes you a real piece of shit of a parent.
It’s a very American thing. American Culture is fucked up.
Capitalism at its fines. Nothing more to say.
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When I say on his own, I don't mean encouraging them to move out or to take responsability towards adulthood.
I mean telling your kid, at 17, a few weeks before turning 18 : "The day you turn 18, you better have a place to stay for the night because you're getting out of my house, I don't care if you have no jobs, just graduated high school and are saving for university, you're 18. Get out".
This is not being a parent. This is not teaching responsabilities. This is treating your kid as a financial liability and the fact that you want to get rid of them the day it becomes legal to do it speaks volume on your quality as a parent.
Making them cook their own food, making them do their own laundry, asking them to help around the house, encouraging them to move out, take a job if they're not studying : THAT's being a parent. Not even a good parent, that's the basis of what every parent should do.
The fact that it is so foreign to some parents around the world seriously concerns me.